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Monday, February 8, 2010

Man Falls Asleep On Roosevelt Island Subway Platform - Pants Cut, Wallet & Iphone Stolen

Subway Sleeper Image From Through My Third Eye

Filed under the category of Don't Fall Asleep On The Roosevelt Island Subway Station Platform. According to the 1/6 - 1/7 Roosevelt Island Public Safety Report:
Robbery- In the subway. Male was asleep and unknown subject cut his pants and removed a wallet and an I Phone. PSD responded. EMS refused. Victim to file a report with Transit NYPD. search for the subject yielded negative results.
Subway Sleeper Image is for illustrative purposes only and does not involve the incident described.


Anonymous said...

What were the platform police doing when this was happening? What are they being paid for?

dj said...

Confused by Anonymous. Is this an RI thing, or are there supposed to be police on every subway platform at all times? That seems like a lot of police. Terrible that this happened, and there's no excuse for criminal behavior, but let's be honest - that was not a wise move and it had consequences. Thank goodness the victim wasn't physically injured.

Anonymous said...

My comment is referring to the fact that there is a police officer stationed on each side of the RI platform earning a salary to protect transit riders in our station. What were those two officers doing when this happened? Why was public safety involved, when the transit police are closer at hand?

Anonymous said...

Those officers don't patrol the platforms. They just sit there at the farthest ends w/o being able to actually see the entire platform on either side.

dj said...

Thank you - I do appreciate the clarification. Sounds like these are very good questions. Why was it a PS issue if transit police were present? Why are transit police present but stationed so as to not see activity on the platform? And why does the RI station have two officers? Forgive my ignorance - I'm new to RI, but I've frequented many subway stations throughout Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan and I've not seen that sort of police presence outside of major hubs.


My understanding is that the police officers are present at Roosevelt Island subway station to guard the tunnels for reasons that we are all aware.

Anonymous said...

I'm not aware of the reasons the tunnels need patrolling. Please share?

Anonymous said...

The UN building. It is an anti-terrorist post.

dj said...

Apparently, we were not all aware :)

But very glad to know the perfectly logical reason now. Thank you for the enlightenment, Anonymous.

Trevre said...

Agreed, like many NYPD stationed in subways and many Subway attendants they just pass time on a cell phone and collected are hard earned tax dollars for doing nothing. As for the PSD on the island, what a joke, their job is basically to pay their own salaries by giving parking tickets and when they are not doing that they are usually cruising the strip wasting gas and money. How many police officers can one 2 mile island have?

Anonymous said...

FYI when I asked the station attendant what the role of the platform NYPD was he said "there are police men down there??"


DJ, did not mean my comment about all being aware of the reasons for police presence on platform to be snarky.
I really thought everyone knew the 9/11 reasons for their guarding the tunnels.

Anonymous said...

Hey Trevre, in case you didn't know, RIOC nor PSD reap any financial benefit from the tickets that are written to violators. Key word: Violators. NYC keeps all that money. Tickets are written so folks like you could follow the rules of society.

Why do we have so many PSD officers here? So you could live in the safest neighborhood in NYC. Roosevelt Island's Finest should pay no mind to ignorant people like Trevre who get tickets and then complain about Patrol Cars wasting gas. Get a grip Dude.

Anonymous said...

Trevre, I'm a City Cop and I live on R.I. Although I don't work in Transit, I always get a kick out of people saying that "their hard earned tax dollars" go to paying a Police Officer's salary. For one thing, Police Officers work hard and pay taxes too. For another, check your paystubb next time you get paid and see how much was taken out. Then divide that by all the city services you get and by the time you are finished, there may be a few pennies left that trickles its way to the Police Department. Keep your 2 cents, please!

Trevre said...

First it is nothing personal against the PSD personel, they do their job for the most part like they are told to do it, I don't know who runs the show or if certain people are resoponsible for it in general and it doesn't hurt to talk about the way they do things. Congress is mostly a joke but that doesn't make all the people involved a joke necessarily.

By "The rules of society", you mean the rules of RI, some of the "Most Strict parking rules in NYC." Please feel free to enlighten me on how giving 3200 parking tickets has eased the parking congestion on the island. Have you ever tried to park on the island streets? I don't want to have to pay for (yes my building fees pay for it) PSD to give 3000 tickets/year*1 hour per ticket*50 bucks an hour/10000 people = $15/per person (at a minimum) a year to keep the parking, that isn't useful for anything, more open to the <10% of people who use it.

If someone wanted to make parking easier simply adjust the fees at motorgate (which mostly go to funding RIOC) so that we could actually park for a reasonable price ($130 a month for a motorcycle really? $20 bucks a day?)

Anonymous, point taken that the revenues of tickets go to the NYC budget, however many projects historically and currently on RI are funded by New York City, freeing up some of RIOC budget to fund things like PSD, so indirectly they are funded by NYC which is partly funded by RI traffic violations.

And FYI I don't own a car here so I can't get tickets or park it on the island streets which are limited to mostly <2 hour parking and mostly filled with people who have permits (how do I get a permit anyways?) and park for days on end, in fact most people don't park on the street, they have to park in Motorgate.

Do you really think crime is low because of PSD? Do you think the crime is lower on RI than in Queens just because of the PSD? There are other reasons such as demographics (e.g., RI isn't exactly the cheapest place to live which keeps crime and poverty out) and geography (e.g., RI is disconnected from queens and manhattan and not exactly attactive to criminals who know they have limited entrances/exits). I would say it is a strech at best to attribute low crime on the island simply with the efforts of the PSD.

By "basically all they do" I meant that if you look at their yearly stats 70 percent of their incident time is spent on parking tickets (assuming all incident take the same amount of time) as noted by their yearly stats. Fine maybe it isn't a joke, but the department spends a lot of time doling out parking tickets which most of the time isn't a safety concern (which contradicts their name).

That is fine if you want to call me ignorant, especially as an anonomous poster but typically blog comments are for discussion. Fine, tell me I am wrong and we can talk about it.

Trevre said...

Look I didn't say all NYPD, and I didn't say the NYPD officers don't work hard, I was referring to the ones who are delegated to sitting on a subway platform with nothing to do (which isn't necessarily the officers fault), like the ones who missed the pants thief on the island. And the amount of tax dollars not spent wisely per person doesn't justify them being not spent wisely. I would much rather have 1 NYPD in the subway at RI and Divide the other one's salary up to give all officers a raise then have 2. And I would put their booth in a spot where they could see the whole place.

Conservatively NYPD is 10% of the NYC budget plus some fedral and other funding. NYC income tax rate (making more than 25k) ~3%. So if you make 50K you are paying 50000*.1*.03= 150 bucks a year which isn't insignificant. Of course I may be wrong about some of the numbers and I am happy to hear if you have different information about how much each of us pay for NYPD. I think that gives anyone paying taxes the right to discuss how the NYPD spends their money.

Anonymous said...

I believe clarifications are needed.

1. Trevre said...
I think that gives anyone paying taxes the right to discuss how the NYPD spends their money.

You have no idea how much this mentality irritates police officers. Police officers pay more taxes than your average nyc resident. Police officers everywhere would greatly appreciate it if you would stop thinking along these lines already. Your $150 a year doesn't give you the right to try to tell a police officer how to do his/her job, especially if you are intoxicated.

2. Trevre said...
Do you really think crime is low because of PSD? Do you think the crime is lower on RI than in Queens just because of the PSD? There are other reasons such as demographics and geography. I would say it is a stretch at best to attribute low crime on the island simply with the efforts of the PSD.

I can tell you as a matter of fact, crime is low because of the combined aggressive law enforcement effort of PSD officers, NYPD transit officers, NYPD 114 Pct officers, the 114 Pct police officer posted on the island and Hospital Police officers, working hard against quality of life issues.

Many off-island people arrested or summonsed have decided to not return to RI. It has become increasingly difficult to find people coming to the island to smoke drugs/consume alcohol/have sex in cars/trespass/break into cars/make graffiti/buy drugs/sell drugs/rob people/steal property/burglarize, etc.

As for demographics, people with more income make better victims. As for geography, criminals from Queens have historically enjoyed walking over the bridge to motorgate to break into cars or riding on the subway one stop to rob people then return to Queens.

Perhaps you should thank an officer instead of trying to dictate how their department's resources should be spent or how he/she should do his/her job.

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