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Saturday, July 21, 2012

Roosevelt Island Tram Station and Tram Cabin Overcrowding Today- Only 1 Tram Cabin Operating Today And No F Train Subway Service To Manhattan From Roosevelt Island

 Roosevelt Island Tram Station Crowding today

Reported yesterday on the lack of Manhattan bound F Train subway service from Roosevelt Island this weekend and previous meeting of Roosevelt Island Operating Corp (RIOC) Operations Committee meeting in which the RIOC Directors complained to RIOC staff when only one Tram Cabin was operating during previous F train subway service disruptions.

It happened again today that only one Tram cabin was operating when there was no F train service from Roosevelt Island to Manhattan. One resident reported this morning:
The tram station is so packed that I had to wait for the next tram due to overcrowding. I am now running late for work and very irritated; all as the other tram car sits idly behind me. I don't get the point of having two trams if only one will be in use. When are we going to get some better management for this thing???
When I arrived at the Roosevelt Island Tram Station this afternoon, the area was jam packed with people waiting for the Tram. Only one cabin was in operation because there was a problem with a gear on the South Tower. I was told that as soon as the Tram Tower problem was fixed, both cabins would be running.

Here's what happened while waiting at the Tram Station this afternoon



and then boarding the one working Tram Cabin. The Tram Cabin was so overcrowded that several people were asked to get off and wait for the next Tram. The Cabin Operator made the best of a bad situation and did his job very well.

14 comments :

commonsense540 said...

That's RIOC being RIOC aT IT'S BEST

Ratso123 said...

I was at the Tram station and although it was crowded it was apparent that there was a problem with the south cabin.  There were 4 mechanics working on it and there were red cones in place on the ground level.  The driver of the out of service cabin was "directing traffic" on the platform.  The problem was not a management issue but a mechanical one.  The schedule was that  both cabins were going to run all day and well into the evening.

Trevre said...

Mechanical and management are the same thing in case you are wondering.

Trevre Andrews said...

Mechanical and management are the same thing in case you are wondering.

siscoeb said...

 Mechanical and management are the same thing. Do you know what you are talking about? The statement is childish.In the future take the f train.

Frank Farance said...

Me>  "Honey, I'll be late, got a flat, changed the tire."

She: "Stop managing the car wrong!".

Mr. Andrews, I'm certain you know better: mechanical and management are not the same thing.

Trevre Andrews said...

Frank, Your analogy is wrong. 

 
You>  "Honey, I'll be late, decided to chance it and not fill up with gas, calling a tow truck."



Her: "Stop managing the car wrong!". 

If you are in control of something you are managing it.  Please, contact RIOC, and ask them what the problem was this weekend, they seem oblivious to any of my questions.  Guaranteed it was something that could have been avoided.

Frank Farance said...

I don't know the cause of the outage. I have heard that RIOC staff (VP of Ops) intends to run both trams at these times.

Not all maintenance is the same, e.g., corrective vs. preventive.  And if it is corrective maintenance on an item on a Minimum Equipment List (MEL), then the operations will stop until it is fixed.  Something many of us have experience in planes delayed at the gate for mechanical issues.

Thus, the flat tire analogy: corrective maintenance (not anticipated), and at least four working tires are part of a car's MEL.

Now if I were traveling 300 miles starting the trip with an empty tank, then that is a management problem because the preventive maintenance (fueling the car) had not been done properly, and *in that case* it would be classified as a management problem (a question of poor judgement).

Yes, it is possible to replace all tires prior to every car trip, but it is expensive and time consuming, e.g., doesn't meet operational goals such as cost-effectiveness.  So in a purely theoretical sense, all corrective maintenance could be classified as a management issue (e.g., they would rebuild a brand new tram cabin for every trip to Manhattan), but in a real-world business and engineering sense, "mechanical" and "maintenance" are not the same.

Trevre Andrews said...

 Nothing in RIOC's history suggest to me that we should give them the benefit of the doubt.  You don't need to explain the difference between preventative and unplanned maintenance, you are wasting your breath.  If there was an unexpected problem why would they not just tell us? 

siscoeb said...

 Why gon`t you and Frank take a rest? The two of you don`t know what you are talking about.

siscoeb said...

 Why don`t you and Trever Take a rest. The two of you don`t know what you are talking about

Frank Farance said...

Mr. Andrews, it is your flawed thinking (again): management and mechanical repair are separate ideas, independent of how RIOC conducts its operations.  It is from your flawed starting point, that detracts from your statements.  Once you start thinking about it properly, then your analysis might be right.  But your starting point is wrong, which means your analysis (even if you have the correct conclusion) is still flawed.

NOtaserME said...

I guess they need a manger to call for mechanical repair. It's bureaucracy that slows us down. Also, I am not familiar with the tramway issue. What I've notice is they use one car instead of two

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