Saturday, April 6, 2013

Here We Go Again, No Roosevelt Island F Train Service To Manhattan This Weekend April 5 -8 - Or Next April 12 -15

According to the MTA:
F Coney Island-bound trains run via the M from Roosevelt Av to 47-50 Sts

Weekends, 11:15 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Apr 5 - 8 • Apr 12 - 15

Trains run express from Roosevelt Av to Queens Plaza.

No Coney Island-bound F service at 21 St-Queensbridge, Roosevelt Island, Lexington Av/63 St and 57 St.
More information on subway service disruptions this weekend from the MTA's Weekender.

No word from RIOC if additional Tram service will be made available.


rilander said...

Perhaps our new president will agree to sit down with the head of MTA and finally, president to president, get a handle on when these outages will end. Past RIOC presidents have shirked their responsibilities in this regard because "it's not their agency"! Well, a nice lunch (c'mon...with what we pay collectively into RIOC I'm sure their president can find $100 - $200 to take the guy out to lunch)! That's how things are done in "the real world" beyond guberment, and maybe that's what needs to happen to help the folks on this rock!

CheshireKitty said...

The outages are part of the work on the 2nd Ave line. There's nothing that any of us can do about it. They do the outages on the weekends so as not to disrupt the weekday traffic.

The F is perhaps the most heavily used line in the city - the people further up the line can take the V or R into the city even if F isn't available, but for us, and I suppose those at 63rd St & 21st Ave, we have to either go back into Queens to catch a Manhattan-bound train, or walk to another station, or take a bus.

The outages are going to continue possibly for years, since the 2nd Ave line is taking so long to complete.

At least the MTA is considerate/smart enough to not work on the project/disrupt service on holiday weekends such as Easter. I'm sure any of the 3-day weekends coming up (Mem Day, Labor Day, July 4th) they won't be doing the outages since there is likely to be more train travel those weekends.

It's bad with baseball season starting, though. The outages add a lot more travel time but there's nothing we can do. Even if the MTA & RIOC presidents had a meal at the ritziest restaurant, it wouldn't make a difference. The lines are going to mesh at 63rd. Once that juncture is implemented, then maybe the regular, but less frequent, tunnel maintenance disruptions will resume. It is my opinion that the tunnel is closely monitored/examined since it's such a vital link - probably the same thing is going on with other subway tunnels. I doubt if the MTA could possibly still be working on the tunnel in any serious fashion so many years after it was completed. So the "work" they do is probably inspection, making sure everything is OK etc.

Frank Farance said...

rilander: When I was RIRA President, I spoke to the RIOC President (then Steve Shane) about some agency to agency discussions about additional/ different service while the tram was out for rebuilding ... pretty much along the lines you suggested. Mr. Shane nicely explained that while the two agencies were public authorities and shared a common boss (the Governor), the MTA was much bigger than RIOC, so it carried more clout ... and besides, what would the Governor think about such a tiny dispute that he needed to get in the middle of and resolve.

Now Mr. Shane actually spoke to the MTA about subway/bus service on behalf of the residents, and later on Mr. Martinez did, too ... both did it effectively.

But before a RIOC exec gets on the phone complaining to the MTA, one must ask (1) is our request reasonable?, and (2) what counter argument might they make?

On point #1, you'll see that almost everywhere throughout the City, there are weekend outages for maintenance work, which is why the MTA website changes in format on Saturday and Sunday to The Weekender format. Having myself met with the MTA at their offices about Roosevelt Island, their take is: if every neighborhood started squeaking and getting special treatment, then the City would be one big mess of special interests. Which leads to ...

On point #2, the MTA would make the argument: Roosevelt Island has this excellent tram service that no other community has, so us residents should be happier than other neighborhoods about viable alternatives.

Realistically: the work needs to get done, yes it's taking a long while, we'll have to slog through giving ourselves an extra 40 minutes to go out to Roosevelt Avenue in Jackson Heights. FYI, there is an excellent restaurant right outside the subway on 74 St called the Jackson Diner, which has good Indian food at moderate prices ... the neighborhood is worth exploring.

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