tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post5269423824623172621..comments2024-03-24T03:30:03.604-04:00Comments on Roosevelt Islander Online: Must See Roosevelt Island Video - RIOC Public Safety Director Jack McManus Discusses Issues With RIRA Public Safety CommitteeROOSEVELT ISLANDERhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15976748588427716146noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-2323700101925970992013-09-27T21:02:47.686-04:002013-09-27T21:02:47.686-04:00I already wrote section 240.35, which I pasted for...I already wrote section 240.35, which I pasted for uou in another post can possibly be construed to be possible.<br /><br />You are a professional propaganda artist.<br /><br />Your arguing something that was already shown to you. Why on earth is it so hard? Chapter 7 of the nyc admin law particularly the nusiance abatement rules and laws.NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-12187713351224862582013-09-27T20:53:58.431-04:002013-09-27T20:53:58.431-04:00OldRossie, the deli that told me it was about liti...OldRossie, the deli that told me it was about litigation related to the Deli Videos. I've seen the criminal complaints. And other things are possible, too. Easily one can imagine the Deli Videos coming up in a lot of cases against RIOC, even if neither M&D nor any of its staff is a party to the litigation (which is why you won't find it search court cases). If you wanted to show aFrank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-89080482376334850012013-09-27T20:35:43.804-04:002013-09-27T20:35:43.804-04:00NotMyKid, this is where you're evasive in, sup...NotMyKid, this is where you're evasive in, supposedly, an area you know something about. Of course, there's no prostitution, obscene performances, etc., which is why those provisions don't apply. But you claim there is at least one provision of the Nuisance Abatement Law that does apply to M&D Deli, so which one is it.<br /><br /><br />Honestly, the fact that I've asked you Frank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-85507160583507748612013-09-27T17:03:05.894-04:002013-09-27T17:03:05.894-04:00Umm... genius. .. that provision does not apply.
...Umm... genius. .. that provision does not apply.<br /><br />So what are you talking about?NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-66114860065222818592013-09-27T16:53:20.205-04:002013-09-27T16:53:20.205-04:00Well, yeah. Nor any of the other stuff that goes ...Well, yeah. Nor any of the other stuff that goes on that is not under the control of the deli owner. <br /><br /><br />For example: What if someone decided to go on a 1 tub of butter a day diet, just to see what would happen to their blood vessels and cholesterol level. After a month, they get their blood tested and of course their cholesterol has risen to dangerous level. In fact, they get aCheshireKittynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-24892030883208699162013-09-27T16:46:01.689-04:002013-09-27T16:46:01.689-04:00NotMyKid: just so we're on the same page, I wa...NotMyKid: just so we're on the same page, I want Frank to explicitly state what he's been eluding to from the beginning. Show some conviction.OldRossienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-77746493934720410582013-09-27T16:43:48.527-04:002013-09-27T16:43:48.527-04:00NotMyKid, what I'm asking for is simply your c...NotMyKid, what I'm asking for is simply your connecting the provisions of the law to the actions in M&D Deli. As an analogy, if you were applying Harassment (240.26), you'd be talking about how one or more of three provisions apply:<br /><br /><br />240.26 Harassment in the second degree.<br /> A person is guilty of harassment in the second degree when, with<br /> intent toFrank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-63038415770184533852013-09-27T16:41:36.290-04:002013-09-27T16:41:36.290-04:00Of course he cannot. I don't even see md deli ...Of course he cannot. I don't even see md deli up on the civil calendar. Prove there is actual litigation.NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-34531831214253781302013-09-27T16:29:44.789-04:002013-09-27T16:29:44.789-04:00I don't think a shooting plus the gunman never...I don't think a shooting plus the gunman never being apprehended is handling an incident very well. <br /><br /><br />Can McManus explain how the gunman successfully got away - even though McManus and his people were right there? <br /><br /><br />How was that possible, especially since the only possible exit points are monitored, and in fact, the RI bridge was even shut down that night In CheshireKittynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-24981614117082287322013-09-27T14:35:38.178-04:002013-09-27T14:35:38.178-04:00What do you want me to answer? I can't prove t...What do you want me to answer? I can't prove the privisiob as it must be drafted to a judge. Not my call.<br /><br />I only stated a possible provision. You know the police have no sole decision and must be brought to court for approvsl or denial.<br /><br />So stop the nonsense to which you know the answer to yourself. <br /><br />Its not in my place to say md is 100% at fault or is actuallyNotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-41335569330055032532013-09-27T14:29:03.053-04:002013-09-27T14:29:03.053-04:00Rick, untrue, you're just pushing a rewrite of...Rick, untrue, you're just pushing a rewrite of history, PSD did this poorly. According to YOUR post: there were 200-300 people (this party should have been shut down sooner, PSD let it get out of control), and there were crows roaming about and someone got shot -- which you're calling a success.<br /><br /><br />This July 4 party was a repeat of last year ... so PSD should have been Frank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-53335698967975398622013-09-27T14:23:26.419-04:002013-09-27T14:23:26.419-04:00NotMyKid, hey Mr. Loud Mouth, just checked your po...NotMyKid, hey Mr. Loud Mouth, just checked your posts in the past 2 days, none of them have that kind of application of provisions to M&D Deli. Why not just answer the question?Frank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-34364587778469725882013-09-27T14:19:43.115-04:002013-09-27T14:19:43.115-04:00I did. Read my other posts loud mouth
Your a goo...I did. Read my other posts loud mouth <br /><br />Your a good guy when you put your personal feelings aside. So stop attacking me and perhaps say hmmm.. this might be possible.NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-75679853839904512282013-09-27T14:11:30.404-04:002013-09-27T14:11:30.404-04:00NotMyKid: again with your flawed argument (Appeal ...NotMyKid: again with your flawed argument (Appeal To Authority), you still can't explain the applicability of the provisions of the Nuisance Abatement Law to the M&D Deli. For a cop, you sound like one of those clueless people who don't like something and say "There Should Be A Law Against That". Still you're no better than the photographer: You Saw Something, But Can&#Frank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-72936137212637677832013-09-27T12:36:58.958-04:002013-09-27T12:36:58.958-04:00I think the general community consensus is that PS...I think the general community consensus is that PSD Director McManus and the PSD Officers handled the July 4 incident very well. In fact, Mr. McManus was congratulated for it during his meeting at the RIRA Public Safety Committee meeting. <br /><br /><br /><br />Below is video of that discussion.<br /><br />http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1511951RooseveltIslandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-47973314489639730072013-09-27T09:27:14.186-04:002013-09-27T09:27:14.186-04:00A two star nypd chief is sooooo clueless and a com...A two star nypd chief is sooooo clueless and a computer programmer is the real genius here!<br /><br />The answer man!<br /><br />Maybe a messiah!NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-81883849417343012682013-09-27T09:26:11.505-04:002013-09-27T09:26:11.505-04:00The only thing I pretty much agree with you on is ...The only thing I pretty much agree with you on is that you can't blame the deli on the shooting.NotMyKidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-61518725981311607102013-09-27T02:21:25.477-04:002013-09-27T02:21:25.477-04:00The July 4th incident - a non-fatal shooting which...The July 4th incident - a non-fatal shooting which occurred outside the deli BY CHANCE - is somehow blamed on the deli business. Meanwhile, PSD, with McManus personally in charge that night, failed to peacefully disperse the crowd. PSD then *blames* the shooting on the deli's "mythical, incredibly powerful baleful influence". PSDInformant: This is so way out of line as to not evenCheshireKittynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-50226015040142600972013-09-27T00:37:21.294-04:002013-09-27T00:37:21.294-04:00I have no clue what incidents you're talking a...I have no clue what incidents you're talking about. I don't listen much when you go on and on and on like a maniac.<br /><br />This is what I've gathered from this. You and the island hated the director two directors ago. You hated Guerra, and now you're already banging on this McManus who I don't know from a hole in the wall. Seems to me that you are the problem.<br /><br />PSDInformantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-82765722821091305112013-09-26T17:08:47.942-04:002013-09-26T17:08:47.942-04:00Could someone provide more info about the Pedophil...Could someone provide more info about the Pedophile they brought up in the meeting???<br />This is serious!!! You all have kids or grandkids. I am worryNallynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-8693139646624983202013-09-26T07:06:12.788-04:002013-09-26T07:06:12.788-04:00PSDInformant: PSD Officers fabricated testimony. ...PSDInformant: PSD Officers fabricated testimony. PSD officers were abusive. PSD isn't able to do their job (but NYPD is), right? PSD asks for a crowd to disperse, yet the people comply with your orders and you then arrest them, right? Abusive, right? Got it all here from your criminal complaints (officers were fabricating testimony).<br /><br /><br />Recently, I thanked one of the Frank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-88701089286919460032013-09-25T18:33:33.382-04:002013-09-25T18:33:33.382-04:00OldRossie, agree on parenting, seen the son of RIR...OldRossie, agree on parenting, seen the son of RIRA Public Safety Committee Chair hanging out in front of the deli. :-)<br /><br />The illogic of Mr. McManus is: complaints are at a time when the deli is closed, so closing earlier doesn't help. Is that arbitrary/capricious? Really, there is no logic to Mr. McManus' determination.<br /><br />Your concern "I do NOT agree that he'sFrank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-45343239813813769442013-09-25T17:21:12.283-04:002013-09-25T17:21:12.283-04:00Right, we discussed 240 in the past. I think I wa...Right, we discussed 240 in the past. I think I was complaining about this and PSD in the past, then I met McManus, and I've since been very positive. I may be contradicting myself from a while back, but here's my 2 cents (as if anyone cares): McManus might be taking the reasonable-man approach by suggesting to the deli that, if they wouldn't mind, closing at their prior 10pm OldRossienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-44266216145281091472013-09-25T16:30:55.226-04:002013-09-25T16:30:55.226-04:00OldRossie, when you read the law below (as per NYP...OldRossie, when you read the law below (as per NYPD), you'll see how poor PSD enforcement has been. Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that PSD go overboard into the Abuse Zone, I'm pointing out that PSD could have done it well without the abuse and without the arrests of people who were doing nothing illegal. (By the way, these are two of the three prongs of the policy/approach weFrank Farancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008819998091697653.post-37420511718683749122013-09-25T15:21:30.748-04:002013-09-25T15:21:30.748-04:00What is PSD's authority in these situations? W...What is PSD's authority in these situations? What cause would they have to clear the side walks in front of the deli, at ANY hour? I think they should, but they must be on the sidelines for a reason.OldRossienoreply@blogger.com