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Monday, February 9, 2015

Learn The Fascinating History Of Roosevelt (Blackwell's and Welfare) Island Religion And Worship - Tuesday February 10 At NYPL Roosevelt Island Branch 6:30 PM

Roosevelt Island Historical Society (RIHS) President Judy Berdy will give a presentation on the history of Roosevelt Island, formerly Blackwell's

and Welfare Island

religion and worship.

According to the New York Public Library Roosevelt Island Branch:
Religious Island: Religion and Worship on Blackwell's Island
Tuesday, February 10, 6:30pm - For Adults

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, many denominations served the people who lived, worked, and visited Roosevelt Island. Find out the fascinating history of the religions of the Island.


YetAnotherRIer said...

Are you saying that because a handful of people are doing this the community is not the same as it used to be? Huh.

CheshireKitty said...

Yet: It is confusing what he is talking about - especially since he never added the link he was referring to. It sounds like a couple in Eastwood rented two apartments from hr - that is, Hudson-Related, at Southtown, and re-rented space in them on an ongoing basis through aribnb, thus making $60,000 per year on each apartment.

He says the community will disappear because folks are using airbnb to rent out space, but why haven't many other communities disappeared although they contain hotels? Why are guests staying at apartments via airbnb different from guests staying at hotels?

Actually, they aren't any different, and I don't think communities die out because of the presence of guests staying at either hotels or airbnb accommodations.

I think the opposition to airbnb stems from that of the established hotels, who do not want to have any competition, wish to keep room prices high. It's in their interest to suppress airbnb.

As far as security risks - yes, I agree there are security risks in renting out both hotel rooms and airbnb space. I don't see the risk as more or less in either case although residential apartment buildings many times do not have a door staff whereas hotels most always have some security in addition to the desk staff and additional employees. There is also a vetting/investigative process that the landlord performs in considering applicants for apartments - which is mostly absent in renting space to airbnb or hotel guests.

If the tenancy at any particular building is unhappy with the situation of units being used for airbnb accommodations, then it is possible the landlord could add a restrictive clause to leases forbidding the use of units as airbnb accommodations; although the clause might be difficult to enforce nonetheless it would act as a deterrent.

However, by and large, as long as renting sofa space is not abused, so that it really becomes a "business" rather than rented out occasionally, because it is beneficial for the traveler and the apartment-dweller, I don't see it going away.

Frank Farance said...

Spoke to card shop, they are closing at the end of the month. I wish them well.

CarnetBleu said...

The many passersby are indifferent about our community issues. The only real community left is the old generation.

OldRossie said...

I always get such a kick out of the hatred for anything new. New ownership, new tenants, new generation, new ethnicity of "passersby"... When did "the old generation" forget they wre still part of New York City?

YetAnotherRIer said...

Maybe you should move to a place in this country where time stands still? Roosevelt Island is smack in the middle of New York City... what do you expect?

CheshireKitty said...

If you are referring to the airbnb guests, or even visitors to RI who may be staying at actual hotels in NYC/Manhattan, if you or I visit other cities we are also "disconnected" from the communities we visit. If I am not mistaken more than a million guests visit NYC each year and probably tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers also travel on business or vacation each year. I don't see hotel or airbnb guests as adding or detracting from communities. I do see the hotel industry as an important one in NYC, and as I said elsewhere, I don't think the rise of airbnb accommodations is going to seriously subtract from the hotel business, despite what the hotel business would have you think.

CheshireKitty said...

i guess they had it with Kramer - couldn't accept the blood-sucking rent demanded.

Same here - I wish the card shop guys well in their future business endeavors.

Frank Farance said...

CK: H-R's trick is to get tenant to pay more money, or move them so tenant absorb the built-out costs (plumbing, electricity, etc.), which H-R can then rent to the next tenant.

CheshireKitty said...

And what will happen with M&D? Is it next? Their renovation never seems to end and it doesn't seem as busy as before.

Ratso123 said...

I heard that M&D has been sold. Does anyone know if it is true?

CarnetBleu said...

I have read the entire series. I have to admit, I do not like the tourists using roosevelt landings as their hotel. I am quite certain that many of you live in Island House, Westview and perhaps you are lucky enough not to have to take the next elevator because the one that came is full of tourists and their luggage. And this is one of the small problems.

CarnetBleu said...

Enjoy yourself:)

CarnetBleu said...

I'm just going to have to bet this is not happening in the building you live in.

CheshireKitty said...

Dunno one way or another but I doubt it does happen in doorman buildings.