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Sunday, November 3, 2013

Roosevelt Island Manhattan Park Residents Association Organizational Meeting Monday November 4 - Come Learn What Is Going On


Are you a Roosevelt Island resident of Manhattan Park concerned about high electricity charges, window/facade work or any other issue regarding the building complex? If yes, you may want to attend tomorrow's organizational meeting of the Manhattan Park Residents Association.

20 comments :

CheshireKitty said...

Excellent! Best of luck to patient, long-suffering, Manhattan Park neighbors!

Bill Blass said...

Why do you call them long suffering.

Bill Blass said...

I don't think they have been suffering.

Bill Blass said...

The ones who are suffering are the people in eastwood.its like living in public housing

OldRossie said...

Move.

Bill Blass said...

This is luxury public housing at it's best

CheshireKitty said...

The endless facade project and the sub metering injustices.

CheshireKitty said...

They suffer IMO. It sounds like if you ever question anything management does, the management co immediately offers to terminate your lease if you have a complaint about living there.

CheshireKitty said...

Hahaha.. that's one way of putting it! Eastwood is a great building, but, cheaply-built.


Imagine how much more Eastwood would be worth if somehow Big Allis were replaced/relocated elsewhere - such as in NJ, where there is plenty of land along the Hudson River directly opposite Manhattan. It is just as easy to transmit electricity to Manhattan from NJ as it is from Queens.

OldRossie said...

Any feedback from the meeting for those that couldn't attend?

YetAnotherRIer said...

Endless? Not really... it is a lot of facade that needs to be inspected and replaced. It takes time. I was able to live through it for months (with small kids and no a/c or heat at times) and I sure survived. Management was more than willing to accommodate us as much as possible.


I live in MP and I disagree about your so-called "sub metering injustices." There is no such thing going on. It is a bit less transparent than it should be but there is no such thing as injustice going on.

YetAnotherRIer said...

We are not suffering. Thanks for your concern, though. It's just that some people are a lot more whining than others. Same old.

OldRossie said...

I agree it's a ton of work that has to get done, and I agree that management has been accommodating. And I don't see any issues with the sub metering either. BUT: the work has made for an environment quite a bit different from the one we've been paying for. windows and balconies sealed off? Not exactly inhuman conditions, but not worth the price either. Also, it can't be healthy to breath in the concrete dust - especially for children. Lastly, I think it does seem endless...

CheshireKitty said...

Just referring to Mark's experience - which I only know about since he wrote about it on the blog (either in an article or in a comment).

CheshireKitty said...

Re: The sub metering. Simply referring to Mark's previous comments, also I believe there were some additional residents who reported similar inconsistencies on their electric bills.

YetAnotherRIer said...

Right. Your melodramatic spin on things is just annoying.

YetAnotherRIer said...

I agree with your point that we don't get what we pay for while the repairs last. The thing is, the law doesn't require the landlord to make any incentives. So, it is entirely up to management to decide what to do with complaints. Folks got free pool memberships, penalty-free opportunities to break the lease, etc. MP has always been money-hungry so it is no surprise that reducing the rent was never an option for them. It's up to you and your pocketbook to decide if they deserve your monthly rent payment.

OldRossie said...

Absolutely agreed. The work has been going on for a long time, so at this point, Id think the majority of tenants have had the choice to renew, or have moved in, since it began. The plastic on the windows, noise, dust, etc... not a mystery when you sign the lease, so way past the point of complaints.

Contrary Mary said...

This effort is bound to fail for two main reasons:
1) MP/Grenadier is not interested in working with tenants on lease issues. Example #1 is how Mark was treated when he questioned the electricity billing. Being an attorney, he doesn't intimidate and got them to at least provide us with a separate breakdown monthly. I agree they did very well on mitigating the situation for those of us who had to suffer through a year of drilling both external and internal (the elevators) and being unable to use the heat or in sweltering July, the AC with the day pool passes, the community club building access.
2) The reason why MP/Grenadier is not interested is that it can rent any apartment for high rents to temporaries: UN mission staff/families, Marymount College students or the mysterious and substantial influx of Asian students (who oddly speak little English) going to primarily NYU (from their t- and sweatshirts). My sources indicated that many of these rents are paid a year in advance, though how Grenadier is paid is not known. It is also rumored that these apartments are leased as a group and the students pay the lessee.


None of these people have any interest in the condition of the building or anything in common with the shrinking number of 'regular tenants'.


The MPRA will be a checklist for MP to target tenants for insane lease hikes or non-renewals. Sorry, but that is how I see it.

CheshireKitty said...

So you feel the landlord should just be able to get away with anything he wants? Tenants associations have been around as long as tenants have been around. They do rent strikes. Sometimes, they break the landlord. There are many stories of the landlord giving up and the tenants taking over, making the needed repairs and upgrades, and yes, lowering the rents.


I wouldn't discourage the MPRA. Look around you - tenants successfully organize to fight unfair rent increases, lack of repairs, lack of upgrades, etc. In unity there is strength!