Roosevelt Island Parking Dialogue With Resident & RIOC President - Southtown Underground Parking Discussion Welcomed & New Motorgate Rate Structure?
Interesting exchange between Roosevelt Island Operating Corp. (RIOC) President Steve Shane and Mogens, a Roosevelt Island resident, regarding automobile traffic, parking at Motorgate Garage and possibility of underground parking at any future Roosevelt Island residential development in Southtown that they both kindly permitted to be shared with the community. It began with Mogens message to Mr. Shane:
Forward planning goes a long wayMr. Shane replied:
.......But where is everybody going to park? In new underground or multistory garages.At Station Square in Clearwater, Fla., 126 condos sit on a former 78-spot parking lot. Amenities include a rooftop pool, a fitness center and ground-floor retail space — plus a five-story garage in the building that has 326 parking spots, 100 of them public. "There's more parking now than there was before," says the property's manager, David Traynor.
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I don't get your point.Mogens replied:
Roosevelt Island was and is planned to be an automobile free environment with a central parking facility. The capacity of Motorgate is not yet reached and if approached, there is another quadrant to be built, and vertical expansion also possible.
Do you see the need for more parking, to encourage more cars in an urban environment with lots of mass transportation options?
I apologize for not making myself clear. I am in favor of the original concept , which I recall as:
- No parking by anybody on Main Street except for loading/unloading and bonafide handicapped with a 6 hours limitation and only on the East Side of the street.
- Red buses running punctually and predictably.
I think we need
- Reduced monthly parking fees at Motorgate for employees of the local merchants and RIOC/PSD to free up Main Street
- Reduced short term parking for patrons of the tennis club, who can take the Red bus from Motorgate
- Built in parking space underground or on lower floors for any new construction.
My objective is to get cars off the street (again) not to encourage more traffic.Finally Mr. Shane:
The developments on Roosevelt Island are now located far apart. The population growth will attract potential candidates for the shops on Main Street; but they will be discouraged by the virtually non-existing parking availability in front of the stores.
The above is Utopia and much progress can be made just by enforcing the existing laws.
Thank you for your attention
The employees of the merchants already do get a discounted rate at Motorgate.Wikipedia maintains a list of car free places around the world, including our own Roosevelt Island, and the NY Times hosts a debate on Car Free in America.
We are actively considering revamping the rate structure at Motorgate to encourage short term use thereof to get the cars off Main Street.
Underground parking in the remaining contemplated development (Buildings 7, 8 & 9 of Southtown) would be a policy shift and require a reprogramming of the Master Plan. A worthwhile public discussion, but not now on the table. There are clearly pros and cons.
Thank you for your interest. I trust you will continue to participate in the public discussion of the many issues as the Island matures and social patterns evolve.
8 comments :
Thanks Rick for including the reference to "Car-free in America?" in today's New York Times. The article is very interesting and in line with Mr Shane's thinking.
I hope RIOC over time will switch to increased parking restrictions coupled with increased Red Bus service so that parking at Motorgate will be a "natural".
What is interesting (and not sure this has been voiced to Steve Shane or anyone in RIOC) is also the following:
1. RI is not car free - ask any parent that has watched the hospital employees try to make their shift, driving rapidly in excess of posted limits and disregarding stop signs.
2. By not having parking underneath the Southtown buildings, there is a doubling of traffic. How so? Well, it takes one trip through Main St to go home and drop things off, and another trip up Main St to park the car.
3. Relying on 1 vendor (such a 1 supermarket, or 1 parking garage, or 1 of anything) is what has made Roosevelt Island fall so far behind in needed amenities. Thankfully we have some new retail space and new energy in Southtown, but the point is that when we let the market work and let new people come in and compete, it helps everyone. I'm sure the Southtown garages can pay their tithe or tax to RIOC as needed, and still provide a useful service and impetus for Motorgate to repair those escalators that have only been in disrepair for a decade.
Parking is definitely ruled on R.I. not by the appropriate DOT parking laws, but by the rules of the P.S.D. They have legitimized the use of menu's, expired NYPD placards, the unlawful use of DOE placards, MTA police placards, NYPD placards (all used by residents and not for legitimate use). Mr. Shane, maybe you should look in your own house, where the parking on R.I. is supposed to be enforced.
Ref Anonymous comment that
"By not having parking underneath the Southtown buildings, there is a doubling of traffic. How so? Well, it takes one trip through Main St to go home and drop things off, and another trip up Main St to park the car" not every trip involves so many things that it necessitates a car to go home and drop them off.
The possibility of adding garage space within the next buildings in Southtown would be the best solution but the Red Bus is not a bad link when you do not carry many "things".
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