Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Roosevelt Island Southtown Building 7 To Begin Construction In Early 2013 Says Hudson Related Developer David Kramer - Be Wary Of The Herculean Rock

 Future Construction Site and Home To Hudson Related Southtown Building 7

Roosevelt Island Hudson Related Southtown developer and Main Street Retail Master Leaseholder David Kramer told the NY Times:
... We were designated to build a new neighborhood at Roosevelt Island that we have named Riverwalk. It’s nine buildings and we’ve built six of them. We just started working on the design of the seventh building and we break ground early next year. It’s most likely to be a 21-story rental building at market rate....
and:
... Last summer we were designated to take over the retail corridor — 33 stores, 100,000 square feet — that had been poorly managed over decades by the state agency, the Roosevelt Island Operating Corporation. The new leadership realized that it was important to have a private real estate operator oversee and manage the retail

So we want to turn that around and have a lot of plans to make it a bustling retail shopping corridor. I think six months from now it’s going to be a real dramatic change in the stores, the leasing and how it looks....
Click here for the entire NY Times 30 Minute Interview with Mr. Kramer.

I asked Mr. Kramer yesterday:
Is it true that Hudson Related will start construction on Riverwalk Building #7 in early 2013? Have you exercised your option with RIOC for the property?
Mr. Kramer confirmed that yes it was true.

I asked the Roosevelt Island Operating Corp (RIOC) for a comment and will update if and when it is received.

Wonder if the construction crew will encounter another Herculean Rock


resistant to destruction as happened during the construction of 415 Main Street in 2007:
A neighbor had been complaining about the unusually loud pounding sound directly outside his window coming from the new Related/Hudson Riverwalk Condo construction site. I had originally thought that the description of the noise as being unbearable and horrendous was due to not being accustomed to living so close to a new construction site. Apparently there is more to this because I am told that there is a very large boulder on the construction site that has proven to be almost indestructible to the construction crew. This Herculean piece of Roosevelt Island rock has resisted destruction by being broken up into little pieces by heavy construction equipment as well as an injection designed to shatter the rock, all for the benefit of future Roosevelt Island condo owners....
Here's what the 2002 Southtown construction site looked like.

Image of 2002 Southtown Site From Main Street WIRE Southtown Chronology

36 comments :

Anonymous said...

Yea this is the new roosevelt island .only market rent apartments get builded here.no affordable housing. And rioc says nothing

Anonymous said...

Just what the island needs. Another building for the uppery up rude people of southtown.will they be building a building for the nannies who work in southtown

Anonymous said...

Yes, this is the new RI and I couldn't be happier!!!!!

Westviewer said...

Where will the proposed buildings be?  

mogensjp said...

Hopefully HR will have learned that parking facilities in Southtown are inadequate for people who do not want to avail themselves
of the Motorgate facility. Will they build parking facilities for tenants in the new building? 

bakgwailo said...

 You can see it in the first picture - basically across from 455/ where the little "tram field office" is. As far as I can tell at least. I would imagine it would be a mirror of 455/465/475, as the driveway cut out already mirrors it.

bakgwailo said...

Anyone know if there are any plans on putting in more retail space in the three new buildings? Seems like it could be an ideal place for a few more shop fronts.

westviewgirl said...

If Hudson Related builds more market rate apts in ST, they have to be cheaper than 405 Main because they will have only a view of Queens :) The buildings in ST now will block views of Manhattan. Also ST should have it's own parking deck, maybe that will come true too. I wonder if Cornell will come in and try to buy some of the condos and apartments for their staff?  hmmmmmmm 

Trevre said...

Wow, burn... HR hands it to the very corporation that signed them on to a 25 year lease. Hudson finally says what all of us have been saying for years. Ah it's so sweet to hear the truth so loud in clear in the NY times. RIOC there is still time to hangs and try and make up for years of lame performance, but I am not holding my breath.

Roys Andrews said...

Wow, burn... HR hands it to the very corporation that signed them on to a 25 year lease.  Hudson finally says what all of us have been saying for years.  Ah it's so sweet to hear the truth so loud in and clear in the NY times.  RIOC there is still time to change and make up for years of lame performance, but I am not holding my breath.  

Trevre Andrews said...

Wow, burn... HR hands it to the very corporation that signed them on to a 25 year lease.  Hudson finally says what all of us have been saying for years.  Ah it's so sweet to hear the truth so loud in and clear in the NY times.  RIOC there is still time to change and make up for years of lame performance, but I am not holding my breath.  

CheshireKitty said...

Is Kramer ever going to build affordable apartments at Southtown?  If not, the sense that Southtown is a rich man's enclave will tarnish the original vision of RI as a mixed-income, socially integrated community.  So much for the RI Master Plan - dragged into the gutter by the greed of Kramer.  And the folks on a tight budget on RI - they can't wait for more upscale businesses to open up on Main St.  They'll just be standing on the sidewalk, lining up to take their turn for a glimpse of the carefree rich folks in their expensive stores their noses pressed onto the storefront plate glass windows - on the outside, looking in, as always excluded from participating in yuppie pursuits due to low income.  Not a nice picture on a small sliver of land in the middle of the East River..  

RooseveltIslander said...

 the last i heard there were no plans for any retail in the 3 new Southtown buildings

Elizabeth Durkin said...

 Thank you- my thoughts exactly- this Island is forever ruined, with more to come... the whole concept of how and why this Island was conceived in the 1960's has totally gone out of the window due to GREED and NO PLANNING..

This Island is too small for all of these new buildings -with the arrogant David Kramer- of HR, et. al planning to keep building until what- the Island just crumbles.. No thought for the people the settled this Island- who have been here 25- 30 years or more- when no one really wanted to live here and UES and UWS more affluent people snickered- and said "whom would every want to live there"- There are still a lot of long term residents that are trying to hold on to their homes by the skin of their teeth.  We enabled other people to move onto this Island, our rents and taxes enabled more development, the GDP was thrown out the Window with the Master Plan.

There is a Lease between the City of New York and State of New York for 100 years from 1968-2068 and it seems to be have been totally forgotten about.

Mayor Bloomberg changed the Plan and amended it to build The Octagon and that was supposed to more affordable units- it is Market rents..

This Island has lost way too many "affordable" housing units already- Eastwood became a mess and is know "Roosevelt Landings"..

RIOC did nothing to stop that and our elected officials did nothing to stop the Eastwood mess.

The WIRE part of Main Street has been without our major stores for years, Pizza-that was good and affordable and had good Italian food and back in the 1980's had a sit down Restaurant.  We also had a very nice Chinese Restaurant- with white table clothes and very good food in the 1980's.

I live in the most expensive M/L building on the Island, Westview- in the whole State and is not as some people refer to it as "subsidized housing".  There are quite a lot of Residents struggling to make it in WV and IH. 

Roosevelt Island was built with the conception of "Safe, Affordable Housing for Everyone".  It was built for Teachers, Postal workers, Working class and Middle class- that somewhere in the City of New York- there would be a model of a planned Community that was cohesive.  The Island was like that- not anymore...

There are secret deals going on with the Owners of IH and WV and the Tenant Boards and the Tenants have no clue at all what may happen to their homes..

I wonder where Gov. Cuomo stands on all of this..

The AG should be checking out how HR got the deal to build more stores- they already had built Riverwalk at a great loss to RIOC and the State of NY and now I see they may have approval to start building # 7.

This Island is NOT Staten Island, it is too small to handle one more building.

ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Why do you hate Southtown so much? Talk to us. Most of us are neither rich nor uppity. You might just be pleasantly surprised.

Anonymous said...

What a joke!! The same few people that continue to complain about everything and anything need to wake up. This is NOT the 1980's anymore it is 2012!! HR is doing a great job and will soon have the empty stores filled with many new choices for residents. Times change, if u don't like the change u have a choice, MOVE!!!!

bakgwailo said...

 Right, because there are so many affordable establishments on the island already. The Deli is pretty crazy expensive, Gristedese is over priced. Trellis is staying, so exactly what are you talking about? You seem to imply that everything on the island wasn't already over priced, I can only see more businesses that overlaps help drive these costs down. It is a pretty sad day when Duane Reade is the only thing on the island that doesn't have jacked up prices. At least, in comparison to other Duane Reades, as they are already pretty pricey (but still cheaper than anything else on the island).

Oblomova said...

Firstly there are still some folks on the island paying lower prices on rent through section 8 and LAP. My worry is these people are very old and will soon die out, literally therefore these govt subsidies will disappear. At the moment the Eastwood market place rental is way more expensive than the buildings across the street (Island House, Rivercross) and i find this to be so outrageous. Eastwood is terrible, they faked its renovation I see people moving in and then moving out just months later. They also get tons of perks for moving in like monthly metro cards per each adult member in the household. AT the same time nothing good is being done for people with subsidies even though HR is making the same amount of money off their backs. Shame, shame! Back to our story, the amount of inhabitants is only increasing to one subway station, one tramway at the time and a bus that never comes. What will happen when Cornell opens up? Will we get helicopters to get out of here? A ferry boat? TIME TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS! PLANNERS!

Oblomova said...

I prefer to support the local business so I shop at the video store for things like toilet paper, nails, shower curtain. For things that go on my body (shampoo, soap) I prefer Whole Foods. And I'm stuck carrying the heavy bags...

bakgwailo said...

 I do, too. I rather like the video store, but I was more referencing the supermarket/market situation. I was mainly commenting on the fact that the current businesses aren't really that affordable to begin with (excluding the video/hardware store, can't beat a 2 dollar rental), so CheshireKitty really had no good point other than to attack others (specifically those in ST)

Anonymous said...

The joke is the continued negative comments about everything!! The Subway franchise is a welcome addition to Main St. Very simple if u don't like it don't go there, but stop complaining already!!!

Sal Morabito said...

yhy

Anonymous said...

I pay a lot more for my apartment .then anyone l with a lap apartment as I am in sec8 thanks t those rats inthe easrwood building committee

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