Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Roosevelt Island Public Safety Department Recruiting Video - What Type Of Training Should Roosevelt Island Public Safety Officers Receive?

Are you interested in joining the Roosevelt Island Public Safety Department? If so, take a look at this recruitment video.


You Tube Video of Roosevelt Island Public Safety Dep't Recruitment Video

As reported in this post last week:
During November 3 Roosevelt Island Residents Association (RIRA) Meet The RIRA/RIOC Candidate Forum, a question was asked by a resident concerning the training of Roosevelt Island Operating Corp (RIOC) Public Safety Department Officers, particularly as it applies to traffic direction. RIOC Director Margie Smith stated that the Public Safety Officers do receive some training in traffic direction but that the whole Public Safety training issue needs to be looked at again and differently by the RIOC Board....
Here's the Meet The RIRA/RIOC Candidate Forum Public Safety discussion.

33 comments :

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Frank Farance said...

CK, you defend Sgt. Veras's awards for routine work: "first, in Veras's case, she's a female and thus possibly smaller in size than many of the detainees if they were men". I have a lot of problems with that statement because: (1) it means we have different standards for male and female performance on Public Safety, that can result in (2) different pay, promotions, etc. for men vs. women: e.g., a male officer would have to work harder to get promoted than a female officer who has lower expectations (gender bias); or female officers were limited in career growth (glass ceiling) because the organization had lower expectations of women.. Operationally, it would mean that you considered your female officers less capable and thus, possibly, requiring a higher deployment of staff when female officers are involved.

I am hesitant to discuss Equal Opportunity Employment issues because of your bigoted thinking with the hardware store discussion. My feminist thinking came of age when women demanded to be treated as equals and demanded equal opportunities/pay (read:not preferential treatment, such as lower standards/expectations for women).

I've already explained the nature of her suspensions. She is no model employee for promotion because it shows others: you can have a dozen suspensions without pay and get promotions, too. Other PS officers say she is an exception. Other RIOC staff resent the fact that they would lose their jobs over a single suspension, they think it is unfair.

Jesse Webster said...

Wow, almost 24 hours and still no response from Jimmy ... looks like you scared him off.

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Of course she's at a disadvantage because she's female in an area where physical strength can be an issue. It's a fact that female cops armed with guns may be more apt to use deadly force than a male cop - for this reason, they are considered "nastier" - possibly more "dangerous" than a male cop who might be able to subdue an uncooperative suspect using physical force alone - such as throwing a suspect to the floor and pinning their arms before cuffing them. It's not prejudiced or bigoted thinking about women - it's anatomic fact. Being armed of course "levels the playing field" for a female cop, but all cops on RI are unarmed and the suspects on RI all know this. A large male perp may be able to simply brush aside or push to the ground a small female cop - or even a smaller size male cop. Veras deserves her medals - for putting herself in harm's way and successfully making these arrests - even more so because she is unarmed and female. You have not explained the nature of Officer Veras' suspensions. Why don't you find out exactly what caused each suspension? Then you'll be in a position to judge how "serious" the problems were. If they were for something trivial - such as filling out a timesheet incorrectly, or forgetting to submit paperwork - most likely many other PSD officers are collecting suspensions as well for these types of problems. As I've said in other comments, many organizations would not give out suspensions for stuff like incorrectly filling out timesheets, submitting paperwork late etc. You're enraged that Vera not only received the medals she merited, but also was promoted - even with her suspensions. Yet, promotions are sometimes automatically given out, for length of service for example, even if there have been problems like suspensions. Since you don't know what the guidelines are for promoting officers, how can you be so sure Veras' promotion was not merited? As regards our Korean-American hardware store owner, you call me prejudiced although I've been arguing for years that she and her business, as well as the other small businesses on Main St, should be retained? I've been pro-Lees long before Kramer and Kalkin rode into town with the Master Lease because I'm pro the small businessman of any ethnicity - so that would apply to the Korean-American hardware store owner. In my defense of the Lees, I went out of my way to level criticism at a commenter from Westview who said the Lees are not "helpful and knowledgeable" as compared to the Lexington Ave hardware store staff. That to me sounded quite racist - if, Westviewer (or whoever it was) considers the inability of a Korean-American immigrant to speak perfect English as an impediment to helpfulness and the ability to convey information or knowledge about the merch they are selling. It sounded like they were reducing non-native English speakers to second-class citizens for this one "fault" alone - the inability to speak perfect English. In the course of the lengthy discussion, we all agreed that there are plenty of native-born store owners who speak perfect English who are unhelpful and ignorant and that it is possible Westviewer wasn't picking on the Lees because of their ethnicity and/or language ability. Westviewer thinks the Lees would be unhelpful and ignorant of the merch even if they spoke perfect English - and, Westviewer is entitled to his/her opinion as are the 1,200 signers of Lee's petition including yours truly who support the hardware store owner. So please don't pick on me - a non-native English speaker myself - as prejudiced against the Korean-American hardware store owner. If anybody sympathizes with speakers of English as a second language, it's me, since I'm one myself.

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